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Marq 04-03-2023 02:31 PM

Re: TCSS thread "My favourite MASSAGE girls"
 
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Originally Posted by ShittyAss (Post 22114493)
These days vanilla is way too crappy n trash.. I was ok with Vanilla all along. But nowadays is worst than Vanilla. I

But these days, even when i touch the boobs, thousand of comments come out from these girls. Not even to mention kiss yet.

Its bloody turn off frankly. If just to lie down and for her to hj and having my hands tied to myself, i might as well go hot spa or G spa n i pcc myself.

Yea, those that stand/sit at your legs there, where they are totally out of reach. No different from you watch porn on a screen and diy

Special Spawner 04-03-2023 02:32 PM

Re: TCSS thread "My favourite MASSAGE girls"
 
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Originally Posted by U-Da-Man (Post 22113730)
Actually I blame the sg customers just as much bro.

Perhaps sg's greying nation have also affected the customer pool - and everyone's libido. I remember some posts reflecting how "our objectives are different now". Perhaps silly, futile, non-physical pursuits of young MLs have replaced the wonderful orgasmic excitement of mind-blowing service providers like before. I'm not that young too, but thank god I'm still as horny as ever, and remain a 2-shot per session man.

Worse, there's also numerous posts admonishing and belittling others for not wanting to pay higher rates for a boring "cannot do this, cannot do that" 30something vanilla milf. Shocking.

All these "market forces" has unfortunately invited an influx of spoilt MLs to take advantage of the above customers. Oh the stories I hear.....

But I do see some hope. Bro Kopiosteve has recently listed out a few good attitude service providers that are pre-covid standards - like Xiao Qi, Tian Tian and 99. Of course there's also Tang Tang, Xi Xi and Xin Er. So don't be too despaired. Hopefully more of these will render boring vanillas outdated... or is this just a fool's hope. Lol.

As the saying goes, 'want cheap, want green, want big breast'.

I don't think the few bros here contributing to FRs actually has so much power to cause 'market forces'. End of the day, it's preferences for both the ML and customers. You sell orange only, then only orange lovers will come buy from you. Simple as that.

If ML is vanilla, and shitty service, very soon customers will switch and she cannot survive anyway. But if her service happened to touch all the right spots, then she will continue to thrive.

Attitude and service is important. I know of the Jap FL I visited in Japan, I have to hands up to their attitude and service. A 1 shot man like me actually got 2 shots done in 90 mins. And this is not because I wanted it, but she encouraged me, telling me there is still time for another shot, even though only 30 mins left, and started arousing me. All that for $300 plus singapore dollars. :p

ShittyAss 04-03-2023 02:34 PM

Re: TCSS thread "My favourite MASSAGE girls"
 
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Originally Posted by Dieheart (Post 22114041)
Vanillas will provide extras to certain selected ones, to keep them as regulars. Some of the criteria for selection include amount of tips given, hygiene and how you treat the ML etc.

This is what is keeping the vanillas here for the longer term.

Then wtf are they posting fake contents in this case on their ads? I was never calculative with them and i tip them mostly.

Next time i will open their ad, show them what they post on ad and ask them to do it one by one.

They missed one item, i will spam them instantly. Give me poor feedback on their so called data base is useless because i tips girls.

These so called vanilla need to be taught a lesson.

ShittyAss 04-03-2023 02:40 PM

Re: TCSS thread "My favourite MASSAGE girls"
 
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Originally Posted by Special Spawner (Post 22114511)
As the saying goes, 'want cheap, want green, want big breast'.

I don't think the few bros here contributing to FRs actually has so much power to cause 'market forces'. End of the day, it's preferences for both the ML and customers. You sell orange only, then only orange lovers will come buy from you. Simple as that.

If ML is vanilla, and shitty service, very soon customers will switch and she cannot survive anyway. But if her service happened to touch all the right spots, then she will continue to thrive.


Their biz will not be affected. Thanks to the lousy scene of sg massage caused by useless AV.

U avoid it, there will be a next guy to visit. Never lack of customer from forum.

And my comment on vanilla doesnt mean i need to FN n dig n kiss until no day no light.

These days vanilla u touch the boobs, full of stupid comment that is bloody turn off.

Now there should be another category worst than Vanilla. Is called the UNTOUCHABLE.

Its not abt hw many times u visit them or got chem or no chem or got tips or no tips.

Its about they dun even allow u to touch at all. And my touch isnt about grabbing like no tmr as well.

Ahfai 04-03-2023 02:45 PM

Re: TCSS thread "My favourite MASSAGE girls"
 
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Originally Posted by Ninja_Assassin (Post 22114267)
She will offer to you.... up to you whether to take it up.

Does natalie let you touch her boobs or suck them?

future96 04-03-2023 02:47 PM

Re: TCSS thread "My favourite MASSAGE girls"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ShittyAss (Post 22114493)
These days vanilla is way too crappy n trash.. I was ok with Vanilla all along. But nowadays is worst than Vanilla.

Nowadays, even when i touch the boobs, thousand of comments come out from these girls. Not even to mention kiss their boobs yet.

And Fk u SLG. Pls ask those sluts to even indicate they are full wrap up n no touching even of boobs on your portal. IF not stop your fake ads.

Its bloody turn off frankly. If just to lie down and for her to hj and having my hands tied to myself, i might as well go hot spa or G spa n i pcc myself.

No zhut zhut maybe can understand, but no touching of boobs? Then what for list on an explicit website with erotic photos :D

qwertysbfsg 04-03-2023 02:49 PM

Re: TCSS thread "My favourite MASSAGE girls"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ShittyAss (Post 22114534)
Their biz will not be affected. Thanks to the lousy scene of sg massage caused by useless AV.

U avoid it, there will be a next guy to visit. Never lack of customer from forum.

And my comment on vanilla doesnt mean i need to FN n dig n kiss until no day no light.

These days vanilla u touch the boobs, full of stupid comment that is bloody turn off.

Now there should be another category worst than Vanilla. Is called the UNTOUCHABLE.

Its not abt hw many times u visit them or got chem or no chem or got tips or no tips.

Its about they dun even allow u to touch at all. And my touch isnt about grabbing like no tmr as well.

Almost all vanillas (those that offer only HJ in their ads) that I have visited allowed touching of their boobs leh. However, only about one third generously offered them for zhut zhut (e.g. Nina, Yi Yi and Fairy and the delisted Rayna, Lin Lin and Angel). Maybe the heavily flavoured ones are better.

kaixin82 04-03-2023 03:05 PM

Re: TCSS thread "My favourite MASSAGE girls"
 
Name the untouchable lah.
If not, how is she going to improve? :D

Dieheart 04-03-2023 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShittyAss (Post 22114521)
Then wtf are they posting fake contents in this case on their ads? I was never calculative with them and i tip them mostly.

Next time i will open their ad, show them what they post on ad and ask them to do it one by one.

They missed one item, i will spam them instantly. Give me poor feedback on their so called data base is useless because i tips girls.

These so called vanilla need to be taught a lesson.

What I meant are those who provide extras outside the menu to selected ones.

Each of the selected ones will think that they are the only one. He will cling onto her.

Personally, I haven't met one who does not allow touching of boobs.

lacoruna69 04-03-2023 03:36 PM

Re: TCSS thread "My favourite MASSAGE girls"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ShittyAss (Post 22114493)
These days vanilla is way too crappy n trash.. I was ok with Vanilla all along. But nowadays is worst than Vanilla.

Nowadays, even when i touch the boobs, thousand of comments come out from these girls. Not even to mention kiss their boobs yet.

Chill, Bro.

Ever since this covid started, things have changed.

The MLs are not foolish, who wouldn't want to do less but get more $?

Personally, I avoid all those vanillas (even during pre covid). No matter how good FRs are.

I only go for FN. If the ad hilight Nude Massage in red, I expect them to strip full. If they still in underwear, I only let them wear until massage.

When sensual starts, I politely asked them to remove.

Btw, it will be kind of you to indicate who are those who refuse to let you touch their boobs. So I can avoid.

Don't be surprised. some FN ones for some reason don't allow me to touch their boobs....citing want to come auntie liao, so pain pain.

SaintTKP 04-03-2023 03:43 PM

Bro lacoruna69

For all the FN MLs you have tried, what is your minimum you expect them to let you do? Touch pussy? Rub pussy? Dig pussy?

Is there a "miminum expectation" for full nude MLs?

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Originally Posted by lacoruna69 (Post 22114711)
Chill, Bro.

Ever since this covid started, things have changed.

The MLs are not foolish, who wouldn't want to do less but get more $?

Personally, I avoid all those vanillas (even during pre covid). No matter how good FRs are.

I only go for FN. If the ad hilight Nude Massage in red, I expect them to strip full. If they still in underwear, I only let them wear until massage.

When sensual starts, I politely asked them to remove.

Btw, it will be kind of you to indicate who are those who refuse to let you touch their boobs. So I can avoid.

Don't be surprised. some FN ones for some reason don't allow me to touch their boobs....citing want to come auntie liao, so pain pain.


Mobile88 04-03-2023 04:11 PM

Re: TCSS thread "My favourite MASSAGE girls"
 
I do think the vanillas make good money at the start because of SBF reviews.
Like seriously some are too busy to even reply once the hype for her is there. Our FR does have an impact for the forum and the many lurkers out there here for it. Especially when FR constantly promotes RTM for 6/10 7/10 sort
Then the MLs will be encouraged to share with their friends that this is now the norm because many customers.

Probably attracting previous MLs to return too. I’m sure they have ways to share their gossips as much as us having a forum. So then promoting the influx of more vanillas.
For the vanillas that remained so, probably leave SG after business slowed down a lot even though after regulars still visit. This was my discovery when previous a ML was super hyped here. Like bros can’t get a slot at all. When I visit her much later, she claim only having 2 customer that day. And I wasn’t sure why she was in the hype previously also. Like super normal standard ML

Ahfai 04-03-2023 04:21 PM

Re: TCSS thread "My favourite MASSAGE girls"
 
Anyone can tell me if this one is okay? i confused lol

https://$$$$$$$$$$$$$$-24.com/natalie-nuru-massage-hj/, is it same natalie as in sglonelyguy?

Marq 04-03-2023 04:34 PM

Re: TCSS thread "My favourite MASSAGE girls"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ahfai (Post 22114783)
Anyone can tell me if this one is okay? i confused lol

https://$$$$$$$$$$$$$$-24.com/natalie-nuru-massage-hj/, is it same natalie as in sglonelyguy?

You also funny...... If you know the nat that everyone is talking about is from sgl, why are you not looking at the one at sgl?

Its like people talking about a chicken rice stall, and you go to a duck rice stall and ask if this is the same one......

Ahfai 04-03-2023 04:40 PM

Re: TCSS thread "My favourite MASSAGE girls"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Marq (Post 22114822)
You also funny...... If you know the nat that everyone is talking about is from sgl, why are you not looking at the one at sgl?

Its like people talking about a chicken rice stall, and you go to a duck rice stall and ask if this is the same one......

Sorry was abit confused, searched natalie and found FR for SLG natalie but this one didnt find, cause someone told me not to trust SBC comments. Thought they were the same, thanks for clearing it up.

Otaman 04-03-2023 04:42 PM

Re: TCSS thread "My favourite MASSAGE girls"
 
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Originally Posted by Ninja_Assassin (Post 22109037)
They are legally empowered to seize your sim card for investigation purposes.... most cases they will return your device and retain the sim..... unless they need to to forensic scan of your device then it will be seized too.

Bro Ninja, I think you got it the other way round. My own experience is that they will seize your phone but return you the sim card.
I was stopped coming out from the famous blue condo on the hill after visiting an ML there. They ID themselves as CID and told me they had observed me entering unit #xx-xx at xxxx hrs and leaving at xxxx hrs. Took me to one corner of the carpark. Then asked me to relate what happened... followed by some questions. They took my phone and scrolled thru the contents and dialled some numbers. Asked me more questions about some text messages and contacts. After that they took a short statement from me and asked to sign on it. Just then I saw the ML that I had visited come out of the lift with 3 other officers.... and proceed to board a yellow van with DHL markings.
Then they took out my sim card and returned it to me but seized my phone. But they did inform me the phone will be returned back to me after they sent for inspection.
True enough.... I receive a letter about 2 weeks later asking me to collect my phone from Tanglin Police Stn.
I met up with another policeman whom I know before I went to collect my phone as I was apprehensive about what will happen at the police station. He told me not to worry as its normal procedure. He said I was lucky I was using a legitimate sim card otherwise my sim card would have been confiscated if it was a unregistered one. And I can be charged under the Telecoms Act..... although no jail time for this offence but the composition fine is still quite stiff at $300.

Oralcummer 04-03-2023 06:36 PM

Re: TCSS thread "My favourite MASSAGE girls"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Otaman (Post 22114835)
Bro Ninja, I think you got it the other way round. My own experience is that they will seize your phone but return you the sim card.
I was stopped coming out from the famous blue condo on the hill after visiting an ML there. They ID themselves as CID and told me they had observed me entering unit #xx-xx at xxxx hrs and leaving at xxxx hrs. Took me to one corner of the carpark. Then asked me to relate what happened... followed by some questions. They took my phone and scrolled thru the contents and dialled some numbers. Asked me more questions about some text messages and contacts. After that they took a short statement from me and asked to sign on it. Just then I saw the ML that I had visited come out of the lift with 3 other officers.... and proceed to board a yellow van with DHL markings.
Then they took out my sim card and returned it to me but seized my phone. But they did inform me the phone will be returned back to me after they sent for inspection.
True enough.... I receive a letter about 2 weeks later asking me to collect my phone from Tanglin Police Stn.
I met up with another policeman whom I know before I went to collect my phone as I was apprehensive about what will happen at the police station. He told me not to worry as its normal procedure. He said I was lucky I was using a legitimate sim card otherwise my sim card would have been confiscated if it was a unregistered one. And I can be charged under the Telecoms Act..... although no jail time for this offence but the composition fine is still quite stiff at $300.

Great sharing from another lao jiao. Hence my question about whether its safer to visit ML at an apt or an MP - price of privacy comes at a cost - it is up to the individual to decide.

Interesting they said they are CID (C = Criminal). The ML could be part of a larger investigation ? ML advertising their services (not overstayers, not selling drugs, not underaged, not being trafficked, etc) hardly qualify as criminals.

jayy 04-03-2023 06:42 PM

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Thanks for sharing.
Pray tell, were you visiting one from SLG - Local or SLG - Mixed?
I'm wondering which is the more dicey trip ie whether the AV go more for the older WL's (SLG Local) or the new migrant talent ones (mostly in SLG - Mixed).
TIA.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otaman (Post 22114835)
Bro Ninja, I think you got it the other way round. My own experience is that they will seize your phone but return you the sim card.
I was stopped coming out from the famous blue condo on the hill after visiting an ML there. They ID themselves as CID and told me they had observed me entering unit #xx-xx at xxxx hrs and leaving at xxxx hrs. Took me to one corner of the carpark. Then asked me to relate what happened... followed by some questions. They took my phone and scrolled thru the contents and dialled some numbers. Asked me more questions about some text messages and contacts. After that they took a short statement from me and asked to sign on it. Just then I saw the ML that I had visited come out of the lift with 3 other officers.... and proceed to board a yellow van with DHL markings.
Then they took out my sim card and returned it to me but seized my phone. But they did inform me the phone will be returned back to me after they sent for inspection.
True enough.... I receive a letter about 2 weeks later asking me to collect my phone from Tanglin Police Stn.
I met up with another policeman whom I know before I went to collect my phone as I was apprehensive about what will happen at the police station. He told me not to worry as its normal procedure. He said I was lucky I was using a legitimate sim card otherwise my sim card would have been confiscated if it was a unregistered one. And I can be charged under the Telecoms Act..... although no jail time for this offence but the composition fine is still quite stiff at $300.


Ahfai 04-03-2023 06:45 PM

Re: TCSS thread "My favourite MASSAGE girls"
 
Anyone tried https://sglonelyguy-20.com/co-co-massage/

MiG27 04-03-2023 06:57 PM

Re: TCSS thread "My favourite MASSAGE girls"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Otaman (Post 22114835)
Bro Ninja, I think you got it the other way round. My own experience is that they will seize your phone but return you the sim card.
...................

Hi Bro,

Thanks for sharing.

Looks like not fun to have either sim card or hp or both getting retain.

Can't live without my hp....lol

goodnick 04-03-2023 07:23 PM

Eye opener for me even I chiong for many years. Never encountered before. Thanks for sharing.

I cannot live without my personal phone. :D

Hard to tell HR if my other "office" phone is also confiscated by Police.



Quote:

Originally Posted by Otaman (Post 22114835)
Bro Ninja, I think you got it the other way round. My own experience is that they will seize your phone but return you the sim card.
I was stopped coming out from the famous blue condo on the hill after visiting an ML there. They ID themselves as CID and told me they had observed me entering unit #xx-xx at xxxx hrs and leaving at xxxx hrs. Took me to one corner of the carpark. Then asked me to relate what happened... followed by some questions. They took my phone and scrolled thru the contents and dialled some numbers. Asked me more questions about some text messages and contacts. After that they took a short statement from me and asked to sign on it. Just then I saw the ML that I had visited come out of the lift with 3 other officers.... and proceed to board a yellow van with DHL markings.
Then they took out my sim card and returned it to me but seized my phone. But they did inform me the phone will be returned back to me after they sent for inspection.
True enough.... I receive a letter about 2 weeks later asking me to collect my phone from Tanglin Police Stn.
I met up with another policeman whom I know before I went to collect my phone as I was apprehensive about what will happen at the police station. He told me not to worry as its normal procedure. He said I was lucky I was using a legitimate sim card otherwise my sim card would have been confiscated if it was a unregistered one. And I can be charged under the Telecoms Act..... although no jail time for this offence but the composition fine is still quite stiff at $300.


Kopiosteve 04-03-2023 07:23 PM

Re: TCSS thread "My favourite MASSAGE girls"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Otaman (Post 22114835)
Bro Ninja, I think you got it the other way round. My own experience is that they will seize your phone but return you the sim card.


But they did inform me the phone will be returned back to me after they sent for inspection.


True enough.... I receive a letter about 2 weeks later asking me to collect my phone from Tanglin Police Stn..


Wah, yours so dramatic! For me, nothing like this at all!

The 2 times I kenna caught was the first with a FL and the other with a ML.

Both times, the officers did not even touch my phone. And only once they asked me if they could see the messages between the girl and me. They did not touch my phone at all. I later concluded that they didn't do this it's because I did not commit a crime. Looking for FL or ML is not a crime in Singapore. And because I did not commit a crime, they could not anyhow just take my phone and look through it. And definitely cannot confiscate my phone because no crime was committed on my part. I just had to make a statement, sign it, and was free to go. All within half an hour. They never contacted me again.

Anyhow that was my experience. Your experience like very different.

jayy 04-03-2023 07:46 PM

Re: TCSS thread "My favourite MASSAGE girls"
 
I have always thought that this Forum was unsponsored and WL's from any stable may be FR'ed here but then I noticed that all posts were of SLG MLs, especially those from SLG-mix which is the bin for all new migrant talent WLs. Those MLs raise the prices for the services we want. And they blacklist use at the snap of their fingers for anything that they find displease them. Sadly newbie chiongsters give in to their high prices and threat of blacklisting. SLG is party to this bullying of us chiongsters by deleting our honest Comments about the WLs on their webpage. Senior bros here do not help the situation with honest FRs as they are too kind about 'do not spoil their ricebowls' and the strongest negatives are No RTM. Sadly, new chiongsters conclude the wrong level of service quality and get excited over tiny favours that spur their blind high ratings.
There are other stables and the gals there are much better service providers at much lower rates AND they are mostly agreeable to price negotiation. First visit to any one of them is a hit or miss but I always ask for a lower Return price. They always agree as they want me to RTF. I try MLs at 100HJ2 and nego for Return visits at 100 for unlimited HJs or if they do FJ for Return visits.
In the end, we chiongsters should control the prices as the supply is infinite and our money is not infinite. So why do we be happy with all the nonsense about 'market price is 120 for fake massage and ONE 'can be better' HJ.
We should give no ranking above 5 for anything as long as we come out unsatisfied. We are unsatisfied because something was not what we expected from advert or from another bro's FR, so why not give a FR to rank the WL lower than your expectation?
Skip SLG for a while and go check out other stables and return to happy chiong days.



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Originally Posted by ShittyAss (Post 22114493)
But nowadays is worst than Vanilla.

Nowadays, even when i touch the boobs, thousand of comments come out from these girls. Not even to mention kiss their boobs yet.

And Fk u SLG. Pls ask those sluts to even indicate they are full wrap up n no touching even of boobs on your portal. IF not stop your fake ads.

Its bloody turn off frankly. If just to lie down and for her to hj and having my hands tied to myself, i might as well go hot spa or G spa n i pcc myself.


jayy 04-03-2023 07:59 PM

Re: TCSS thread "My favourite MASSAGE girls"
 
She is good-looking and good figure and an experienced masseur. She will not take off top for first timers. In fact first timers may not get a response or get turned down as she is local. Help you shower, not shower with you. She answers about half her hp notifications which is ok by me. Place is very nice with music, lighting, cleanliness and a proper massage bed. Give a try if you want a good massage with happy ending.



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Originally Posted by Ahfai (Post 22115158)


Ahfai 04-03-2023 08:02 PM

Re: TCSS thread "My favourite MASSAGE girls"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jayy (Post 22115320)
She is good-looking and good figure and an experienced masseur. She will not take off top for first timers. In fact first timers may not get a response or get turned down as she is local. Help you shower, not shower with you. She answers about half her hp notifications which is ok by me. Place is very nice with music, lighting, cleanliness and a proper massage bed. Give a try if you want a good massage with happy ending.

Thanks bro!

Ninja_Assassin 04-03-2023 08:10 PM

Re: TCSS thread "My favourite MASSAGE girls"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Otaman (Post 22114835)
Bro Ninja, I think you got it the other way round. My own experience is that they will seize your phone but return you the sim card..

My bad...... I could have gotten the SOP mixed up.
Thanks for the clarification.

Ninja_Assassin 04-03-2023 08:20 PM

Re: TCSS thread "My favourite MASSAGE girls"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Oralcummer (Post 22115150)
Interesting they said they are CID (C = Criminal). The ML could be part of a larger investigation ? ML advertising their services (not overstayers, not selling drugs, not underaged, not being trafficked, etc) hardly qualify as criminals.

Nowadays police ops are often multi-agencies..... since he was told to go to Tanglin Police Stn so most probably Tanglin was the lead agency in that raid.... with backup from CID / ICA / CNB etc. What is interesting is the use of DHL commercial van as undercover vehicle.... SPF getting creative for their raids.

johnrichsg 04-03-2023 08:28 PM

Re: TCSS thread "My favourite MASSAGE girls"
 
After reading the review about mindy got to give it a try, After trying i really thanks those bro who gave a real review although no hanky panky but real hard massage. Enviroment is nice renovated and really smell of nice aroma like those high end beauty saloon, look of mindy she is those girl that you would like her to be your GF or Wifey she is soft spoken and those chio OL that you see at raffles area. Massage is real authenity good strenght and massage right at the point she also do authentiy JG too but i never try out will go to her again in this month and try her JG too!
Highly recommended for those who want a real nice massage by a chio bu!

http://$$$$$$$$$$$$$$-24.com/mindy-thai-massage-juagen/

HiFive 04-03-2023 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by johnrichsg (Post 22115390)
After reading the review about mindy got to give it a try, After trying i really thanks those bro who gave a real review although no hanky panky but real hard massage. Enviroment is nice renovated and really smell of nice aroma like those high end beauty saloon, look of mindy she is those girl that you would like her to be your GF or Wifey she is soft spoken and those chio OL that you see at raffles area. Massage is real authenity good strenght and massage right at the point she also do authentiy JG too but i never try out will go to her again in this month and try her JG too!
Highly recommended for those who want a real nice massage by a chio bu!

http://$$$$$$$$$$$$$$-24.com/mindy-thai-massage-juagen/


No HJ and release? Just JG?

johnrichsg 04-03-2023 08:47 PM

Re: TCSS thread "My favourite MASSAGE girls"
 
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Originally Posted by HiFive (Post 22115449)
No HJ and release? Just JG?

Yes Bro only massage and JG


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