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Originally Posted by vbkk
Would like to clarify on this current trend on paying upfront first.
Mamasan often will intervene and help negotiate for the girl. I would not vouch for all Mamasan kind intention but it's normally for the well being of the coyote/agogo girl. Whether the Mamasan gets a cut/comm it's normally settled between the girl and Mamasan. If u feel it's too pricey, u could find another girl at a lower price. 
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This is where I cannot agree with you. The newer girls are always taken advantage by the mamasans. As usual there are good apples and bad apples. Good mamasans will watch from afar but not interfere while the scam mamasans will usually negotiate for the highest prices possible so as to secure her cut.
One must remember that after you have paid the barfine , what you and the girl do is none of the bar's business so if mamasan negotiate , that means she is pimping?
I see mamasan approach me with 'the card' or to negotiate , I cancel everything.