Protected sex and vaginal bleeding with FL

[WhereGotTime]

So, I just visited a FL and had protected sex with her. When I changed from missionary to doggy, I withdrew my dick and I noticed blood on the condom.

At first, I thought it was my blood from tearing my frenulum but then after i take out the condom, I realized that it was hers since my dickhead has no blood and blood on the external part of the condom.

When I asked her, she first said that must be from fucking too many guys yesterday and also her menses is coming.

Kinda paranoid if I actually touched my dickhead with bloodied fingers from pulling out the condom...

How screwed am I? Have never experienced such an encounter in my years of commercial bonks...

[Big Sexy]

i would say u are pretty safe if the rubber didnt tear
go for a checkup @ dr tan place in due time though

PEP is also an option.. check out the stickies

Originally Posted by WhereGotTime

How screwed am I? Have never experienced such an encounter in my years of commercial bonks...

[spoonge]

Probably, this WL is new to the trade or didn’t have sex marathon for quite some time. Therefore, her virgina structure has weakened. Sex requires constant practice for both male & female in order to perform.

If a girl doesn’t have strong virgina & doesn’t take birth control pills, she may have sudden period if the guy is able to give her intense & vigor orgasm.

These are very normal kind of things for those who often have sex with very young WL around 18~21 year old.

[sammyboyfor]

Originally Posted by spoonge

Probably, this WL is new to the trade or didn’t have sex marathon for quite some time. Therefore, her virgina structure has weakened. Sex requires constant practice for both male & female in order to perform.

If a girl doesn’t have strong virgina & doesn’t take birth control pills, she may have sudden period if the guy is able to give her intense & vigor orgasm.

It's VAGINA you twit.

[sammyboyfor]

Originally Posted by WhereGotTime

So, I just visited a FL and had protected sex with her. When I changed from missionary to doggy, I withdrew my dick and I noticed blood on the condom.

http://womenshealth.about.com/lw/Hea...uring-Sex-.htm

What Does Vaginal Bleeding During Sexual Intercourse Mean

Causes of Vaginal Bleeding During Sexual Intercourse

By Maureen Salamon

Updated December 05, 2011


(LifeWire) - Question: What causes vaginal bleeding during sexual intercourse?

Answer: Bleeding from the vagina either during or just after sexual intercourse is never normal and should always be checked by a doctor.

A variety of vaginal, cervical or uterine conditions can lead to bleeding from sex, such as common inflammation, various sexually transmitted diseases or abnormal growths that can include cancer.

Here's a rundown of the leading causes of bleeding associated with sex:

Inflammation: On the cervix, a benign condition called cervical erosion involves an inflamed area on the neck of the uterus. It's often found in young girls, women taking birth control pills and pregnant women, whose cervices are softer than normal. Cervical erosion may need treatment, which includes freezing affected areas, but it can also disappear spontaneously.

Atrophic vaginitis - Some menopausal women bleed after sex because diminishing estrogen levels cause thinning of the vaginal walls, which can become irritated from intercourse. This is called atrophic vaginitis, a condition that can be alleviated by using lubricating gels during sex. It can also be treated with estrogen, either locally delivered to the vagina or taken systemically.

Sexually transmitted diseases(STDs) such as chlamydia and gonorrhea are caused by bacteria passed between partners during sexual contact. In women, these common STDs attack cervical cells and can cause not only bleeding, but a variety of other symptoms, such as vaginal discharge and pelvic pain, itching and burning. They are treated with antibiotics. Left untreated, chlamydia and gonorrhea can lead to infertility.

Trichomoniasis is another type of vaginal infection. Trichomoniasis is caused by a single-celled parasite that is usually spread through sex. In addition to causing bleeding after sex, it can also cause vaginal discharge and itching.

Abnormal growths on the vagina, cervix or uterus can all lead to bleeding during or after sex. While cancerous or precancerous growths are certainly a concern, "abnormal" doesn't necessarily mean "cancerous." A variety of other growths can also lead to bleeding.

Endometriosis occurs when endometrial tissue, which normally lines the inside of the uterus, appears outside of it. Endometrial tissue can attach to the surface of organs in the abdomen, causing excruciating pain and potentially leading to infertility. When endometrial lesions appear on the cervix or in the vagina, they can prompt bleeding during or after sex.

Uterine polyps are small, soft lumps of endometrial tissue protruding inside the uterus. Intercourse-related bleeding can result from these polyps, which may also appear on the surface of the cervix. Polyps can also prompt bleeding between periods or after menopause. Sometimes polyps disappear by themselves, but treatment can include surgery.

[WhereGotTime]

Thanks for the replies. I have been given reassuring responses (unlikely since I was capped) from my cheongster kakis regarding the incident.

Anyway, I will go to Dr Tan's for a full checkup within the coming months... it's about time I do a check anyway...

[BDeity]

Sounds yucky. But at least not from u. Do keep us informed after u see a doc.

[Canon246]

U got no gf before issit? It means menses coming...vagina wont bleed unless lack of lubrication...if that is so how u put yr dick in?

[Aladeen]

wait ah, u notice blood on ur dick when changing position, and then u continue fucking?

[bangkok47]

As regards to HIV:

If condom was intact, then you have zero concerns there.

Blood from condom to your fingers, and then to your dick would be a zero hiv risk.

HIV is instantly rendered inactive outside the body. It cannot reproduce and cannot infect in this manner.

[sammyboyfor]

Originally Posted by bangkok47

HIV is instantly rendered inactive outside the body. It cannot reproduce and cannot infect in this manner.

That is not quite correct. For example, there is always a risk of needle stick transmission despite the fact that residual blood may have been outside of the body for a considerable period of time.

From http://depts.washington.edu/hivaids/...iscussion.html :

Laboratory experiments suggest that HIV infectivity decreases approximately tenfold every 9 hours when it is exposed to drying conditions[7]. Other experiments, however, suggest that in a cool, humid climate, viable HIV may persist for up to 6 weeks within a syringe[8]. Hence, dried blood at the tip of a discarded needle probably carries a very low risk of HIV transmission, but the liquid contents within a needle could contain infectious HIV for a long period of time.

It would therefore appear that it is not the time outside of the body that determines the risk but the conditions to which the blood residue was subjected to.

[bangkok47]

Firstly, my reply related to his specific (none) exposure, and not a needle stick exposure.

Yes, hiv can remain active and able to infect within syringes. That is, the part of the syringe that is not exposed to oxygen as the blood would be in a vacuum. This would then have to be injected for any possible transmission to occur.

Here is the link for the (quite) infamous article that relates to hiv survival outside the host (body).

http://www.aidsmap.com/Survival-outs.../page/1321278/

These studies were done under very strict lab conditions, with artificially created hiv virus. They also used extremely high amounts of the virus in order to be able to do these tests. These high amounts of the hiv virus are found nowhere in nature, let alone inside the human body!

There is a far more detailed account of this study, including why it has ZERO bearing on the transmission of hiv in the real world...but I cannot find it atm.

Best I could find:

How long does HIV survive outside the body? Can the virus survive outside the body? dr Chikholal Thangsing: HIV does not survive well outside the body, making the possibility of environmental transmission remote. HIV is found in varying concentrations or amounts in blood, semen, vaginal fluid, breast milk, saliva, and tears. To obtain data on the survival of HIV, laboratory studies have required the use of artificially high concentrations of laboratory-grown virus. Although these unnatural concentrations of HIV can be kept alive for days or even weeks under precisely controlled laboratory conditions, drying of even these high concentrations of HIV reduces the amount of infectious virus by 90 to 99 per cent within hours.This shows that drying of HIV-in fected human blood or other body fluids reduces the theoretical risk of HIV transmission to zero. So far, no one has been identified as infected with HIV due to contact with an environmental surface. Unlike bac teria and fungi, HIV is unable to repro duce outside its living host. Therefore, it does not spread or maintain infec tiousness outside its host. Direct con tact is needed with body fluids and blood for infection to take place.

Are you saying to me, that regarding the sexual transmission of HIV, the virus remains active and able to infect outside of the body?

All the respected hiv websites, who deal in the latest up to date science of hiv, categorically state that hiv is simply unable the infect instantly when it leaves the body. It is an extremely fragile virus. Sexually, the only documented risks are for unprotected anal and virginal sex, with only a very specific risk for oral sex.

There are a lot of very conservative websites, usually government affiliated, which employ a "cover your ass" policy, and always use words like small or little risk, when in fact the risk is actually zero.

The cdc website in America would be one.

[bangkok47]

You will get the correct information for everything relating to hiv from the poz forums. And hiv and all other stds from medhelp, both in the community forums and expert forums.

I am only mentioning all of this, because I have seen a fair amount of outdated and false information on this forum regarding hiv transmission risks, and needless advice to get tested, from zero risk activities. Mainly from replies on threads that is, and not in the stickies,aalthough they are really not as accurate as they could be.

[sammyboyfor]

Originally Posted by bangkok47

You will get the correct information for everything relating to hiv from the poz forums. And hiv and all other stds from medhelp, both in the community forums and expert forums.

I am only mentioning all of this, because I have seen a fair amount of outdated and false information on this forum regarding hiv transmission risks, and needless advice to get tested, from zero risk activities. Mainly from replies on threads that is, and not in the stickies,aalthough they are really not as accurate as they could be.

Let's see what Dr Tan has to say if he pops by. I have alerted him regarding this discussion.

HIV is transmitted via certain body fluids. That is a fact that nobody disputes. The issues are how long does any particular body fluid remain infectious after it leaves its host and what influences this time frame.

[bangkok47]

From both the websites/forums I mentioned, the standard response to any question relating to HIV transmission by non penetrative sex, is usually this:

"HIV is unable to reproduce outside its living host (unlike many bacteria or fungi, which may do so under suitable conditions), except under laboratory conditions; therefore, it does not spread or maintain infectiousness outside its host".

This is also the opinion of the two hiv/std doctors who work on medhelp. One is dr.hook I believe. They both have 70 years experience between them working in a busy std clinic.

I am only repeating what I have read from these sites, as well as several others, regarding the transmission of hiv.

Researching my own (none) hiv exposure, led me to the two websites I have mentioned. They seem to be very well informed and respected.

What I have said relates to HIV and not other std's, as I don't feel I know enough about them to comment in any threads.

I have read Dr. Tan's website before. I don't think it contradicts at all what the other sites say.

A lot of the questions on these forums relate to none penetrative sex risks for hiv, and are often about the transfer of genital secretions in foreplay...mutual masturbation, fingering etc.

They are always assessed as zero risk activities for hiv, with or without genital secretions or blood, and with or without small cuts or nicks to the skin.

Why? Because they state hiv cannot reproduce and infect outside the body, unless under strict lab conditions.