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Re: ‘Leaders must be able to take criticism, acknowledge mistakes’: PM Lee

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You are damn right. Why purchase a 99 yrs lease hm fm HDB when we only a lessee and HDB is the landlord? They still got the cheek to say we are the owner and make us pay unnecessary property tax! End of 99 yr lease return back to HDB. CB, i rather stay in a rental flat and pay rental fees mthly only
You are spot on . The day that you buy a hdb is the day that almost entire of your cpf savings will be wiped out. We are only lessee and not owners of your flat .
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We are all under the employment of PAP Government. Even you are a business owner, you still need to pay for alot of stuffs like levies & licences.

Try to maximise the CPF.

Recently I am enquiring to use CPF to pay for my mortgage loan. Needs to get a lawyer to apply and cost $1600. My goodness. Funny why we need lawyer to apply to CPF to use our money? Wait....thats Ah Gong's money now. Not ours no more...
Really CPF is OUR money . It is taken from our gross salary of 30 percent and put in the retirement account. The original idea was first set by LKY and his team which I think it was an excellent idea. Initially we can withdraw all our CPF savings when we reach 55 years old and we can use that sum of money that we deemed see fit. But over the years the MIW kept on changing the requirements until that it is now so difficult to withdraw our money . They even have the cheek to tell us how much money we can use even when we consult the doctor and seek medical treatment . Who gave them the permission to do that ?
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Seriously? KNN, won't even respect his father's wish. 消费死去的老爸来获取最大的政治利益,LHL & Ho Ching��
I am pretty sure that LKY sure know what he is doing when he is doing his will .
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Re: ‘Leaders must be able to take criticism, acknowledge mistakes’: PM Lee

Lee Kuan Yew gave 'express instructions' to revert to first version of his will, says Lee Hsien Yang


SINGAPORE: Lee Kuan Yew gave "express instructions" that his final will of December 2013 be a reversion to his 2011 will, the founding Prime Minister's youngest son, Lee Hsien Yang, said on Saturday (Jun 17) regarding the dispute between Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong and his siblings over their late father's Oxley Road home.

PM Lee had raised "grave concerns" about how his father's last will had been prepared – in particular, the removal and subsequent re-insertion of a clause stating the late Mr Lee's wish that the house be demolished after his death.

"I am not aware of any facts which suggest that Mr Lee was informed or advised ... about all the changes that were made when he signed the Last Will, or that Mr Lee was properly advised about the contents of the Last Will," PM Lee said in a statutory declaration to a ministerial committee tasked to consider the future of the house.

"In fact, there is no evidence that Mr Lee even knew that the Demolition Clause had been re-inserted into the Last Will," the Prime Minister said.

In a Facebook post on Saturday, Mr Lee Hsien Yang said: "The demolition wish in his 2011 will was introduced after Lee Kuan Yew’s meeting with Cabinet."

"My father's Final Will of December 2013 was a reversion to his 2011 will on his express instructions," he said.

Mr Lee said that the execution of the final will was "done openly" and PM Lee was "kept in the loop".

The younger Mr Lee also responded to PM Lee's observation that it had taken less than 15 minutes for the final will to be executed.

"It was a four-page document (Mr Lee Kuan Yew) had seen before and was familiar with," Mr Lee Hsien Yang said, adding that the line spacing of the document "was not dense".

He also cited a file note by the two lawyers from Stamford Law, his wife's law firm, who witnessed the signing.

The lawyers "noted that 'LKY read through every line of the will and was comfortable to sign and initial at every page, which he did in our presence'", Mr Lee Hsien Yang said.

He reiterated that the proper place to challenge the final will was in court.

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Old 17-06-2017, 07:01 PM
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Re: ‘Leaders must be able to take criticism, acknowledge mistakes’: PM Lee

Composition of 38 Oxley Road ministerial committee 'fundamentally flawed', says Lee Hsien Yang

17 Jun 2017 06:31PM (Updated: 17 Jun 2017 06:40PM)



SINGAPORE: The composition of the ministerial committee set up to consider the options for Lee Kuan Yew's Oxley Road house is "fundamentally flawed", the founding Prime Minister's youngest son Mr Lee Hsien Yang said on Saturday (Jun 17).

Responding to a statement in which Deputy Prime Minister Teo Chee Hean revealed that the committee members included Cabinet ministers who were responsible for heritage, land issues and urban planning, Mr Lee wrote in a Facebook post: "It is clear that a committee of one's subordinates should not be sitting arbitrating an issue related to their boss."

Mr Lee also singled out the inclusion of Law Minister K Shanmugam in the committee, saying it represented "a clear conflict of interest".

"We had expressed specific concerns on the possible membership of Shanmugam and his conflict of interest having advised Lee Kuan Yew and us on options to help achieve Lee Kuan Yew's wishes, and the drafting of the demolition wish," he wrote.


Mr Lee also posted a screengrab of an email from his sister, Dr Lee Wei Ling, to Mr Shanmugam, acknowledging a suggestion that the Law Minister had apparently made.

Mr Lee added that he and his sister had previously raised their concern over a possible conflict of intest in writing.

"We were brushed off by (National Development Minister) Lawrence Wong with 'Nothing you have stated precludes any member of the Cabinet from taking part in the Committee's work or its deliberations, with the exception of the Prime Minister'," he wrote.

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Old 17-06-2017, 07:04 PM
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Re: ‘Leaders must be able to take criticism, acknowledge mistakes’: PM Lee

'Nothing secret' about ministerial committee on Oxley Road home: Committee chair DPM Teo


17 Jun 2017 05:21PM (Updated: 17 Jun 2017 06:35PM)



SINGAPORE: Deputy Prime Minister Teo Chee Hean set up, as well as chairs the ministerial committee to consider options for Lee Kuan Yew's 38 Oxley Road home, DPM Teo said in a statement on Saturday (Jun 17).


The Oxley Road house has been at the centre of a dispute between Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong and his siblings, with PM Lee raising "grave concerns" over about how his father's last will had been prepared, and his younger brother Mr Lee Hsien Yang claiming that the "secret committee" was focused "solely on challenging the validity" of a clause in the will stating that the Oxley Road house be demolished upon their father's death.

"There is nothing 'secret' about this committee," DPM Teo said in his statement, adding that it was a committee "like numerous other committees that Cabinet may set up from time to time to consider specific issues".

DPM Teo added that the committee includes Cabinet members responsible for heritage, land issues and urban planning, namely Minister for Culture, Community and Youth Grace Fu, Minister for Law K Shanmugam, and Minister for National Development Lawrence Wong.

PM Lee has recused himself from all Government decisions to be taken on 38 Oxley Road, DPM Teo said. "I chair Cabinet, should any deliberations take place on this property."

Mr Teo added that the Government has the responsibility to consider the public interest aspects of any property with heritage and historical significance, and this applies to 38 Oxley Road.

"Many critical decisions on the future of Singapore were made there by Mr Lee and our pioneer leaders," said Mr Teo. "The Committee has thus been looking at the options available for 38 Oxley Road while paying particular attention to respecting Mr Lee Kuan Yew’s wishes for his house."

COMMITTEE'S INTEREST CONFINED TO THE LIGHT IT SHEDS ON MR LEE'S WISHES FOR THE HOUSE: DPM TEO

DPM Teo also addressed questions as to why a ministerial committee had to be established if it was not necessary to take any immediate decision on the Oxley Road house.

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Old 17-06-2017, 07:12 PM
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Lee family dispute should have stayed private: Experts


Lee family dispute

While Lee siblings' public quarrel is disappointing, 
political observers say Government's standing won't be affected



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Jun 17, 2017 06:00 am



The dispute over the fate of former prime minister Lee Kuan Yew's Oxley Road house has got social media and the international press abuzz.

The news of the feud between Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong and his siblings, Mr Lee Hsien Yang and Dr Lee Wei Ling, has been widely reported by AFP, the BBC, the Sydney Morning Herald and The New York Times, among others.

But political observers here and abroad told The New Paper the family dispute should not have unfolded in the public arena.

While it is disappointing that the fight has gone public, they believe it is unlikely to impact Singaporeans' trust and confidence in the Government, or its dealings with other countries.

On Wednesday, Mr Lee Hsien Yang and Dr Lee Wei Ling said their brother, PM Lee Hsien Loong, had obstructed them in carrying out their late father's wish - which was stated in his will - of having 38 Oxley Road demolished after his death.

PM Lee responded by saying he was saddened and disappointed that his siblings had chosen to publicise a private family matter.

He released a 41-point document on Thursday, which detailed the events that caused him to have serious concerns over how the last will of the late Mr Lee was made, and if there was a conflict of interest when his sister-in-law Mrs Lee Suet Fern helped prepare the will.

“Singaporeans would rather not associate a divided family as part of his (Mr Lee Kuan Yew's) legacy.”
— Professor Eugene Tan

Professor James Chin, director of the Asia Institute at University of Tasmania, said: "I think older Singaporeans will feel a sense of regret and wonder why (Mr Lee Kuan Yew's) children are washing their dirty linen in public. Their father was a great man, so why drag his name around in public."

Singapore Management University law don Eugene Tan shared the sentiment.

"This relates back to Mr Lee Kuan Yew. The family was important to him," he said. "Singaporeans would rather not associate a divided family as part of his legacy."

He felt Singaporeans were unlikely to rush and pass judgment on the statements of the three siblings, including PM Lee's statutory declaration.

"How they are substantiated and rebutted will be closely watched. The public, however, will not be able to absorb all the details," Prof Tan said.

"But the government will have to be mindful of any potential fallout and be sensitive and responsive to public opinion."

National University of Singapore sociologist Tan Ern Ser told TNP that while many people will not be surprised at the split between the Lee siblings - there have been previous reports on social media of differences among them - the magnitude and complexity of the feud may have come as a surprise.

"It shows that they are in some ways like many of us, that there can be a gap between the family as an ideal and in practice," he said.

Both Prof Eugene Tan and Prof Tan Ern Ser said the saga would not affect the Government's reputation.

Said Prof Tan Ern Ser: "The surveys that I know of indicated that most citizens trust the Government...Most would consider this to be a distraction at a time when we have bigger issues to tackle with regard to the economy and national security."


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I wonder will he go to jail ?
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Too young to go to jail

Most likely either Boys home or house arrest
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The propaganda state machine really working overtime on this case.
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Can see that people are abusing bike sharing scheme .
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Can see that people are abusing bike sharing scheme .
The Ntuc trolley has been abused by people for ages... Kind of expected that people will do the same for OFO as they are free unlike the other bike sharing company so they will be some itchy backsides
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Cannot control 2 persons, how to control the nation?
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true.. obike needs deposit too so that weeds out some of these bo liao folks. Then they also track the account which last unlocked the bike; so a bit hard to abuse the bikes unless someone really throw into car and drive elsewhere to wack the bike.

that said, all these incidents won't hurt ofo.. they are expanding so aggressively.. can claim 2 billion valuation back in april.
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true.. obike needs deposit too so that weeds out some of these bo liao folks. Then they also track the account which last unlocked the bike; so a bit hard to abuse the bikes unless someone really throw into car and drive elsewhere to wack the bike.

that said, all these incidents won't hurt ofo.. they are expanding so aggressively.. can claim 2 billion valuation back in april.
Not only because of money, they need some form of identification from users (Via Credit, Debit Card / Paypal) as well so in case of any abuse of thief they have some form of record....
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